Jason Fraley interviews painter and debut filmmaker Titus Kaphar, whose standout Sundance flick “Exhibiting Forgiveness" opens in movie theaters today. He calls in to discuss working with talented actors like André Holland and Andra Day, as well as his own journey as a contemporary painter with powerful works like recontextualizing Thomas Jefferson in “Behind the Myth of Benevolence.” (Theme Music: Scott Buckley's "Clarion") Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices