“If Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, and the big banks decided to gang up on Proton, they can still do the same thing to us today, right? So from that moment to today, I think I've always been the advocate of how can we get this powerful concept [Bitcoin] that enabled Proton to survive 10 years ago and make it more widespread and make it more common? Because I think the future of business, democracy, freedom, it really depends on this.” On this Bitcoin Talk episode of THE Bitcoin Podcast, Walker talks with Andy Yen, the CEO and Founder of Proton. Not only does Proton offer encrypted email, VPN, file storage, and a password manager, but they recently announced they’re launching Proton Wallet, a self-custodial Bitcoin-only wallet, which is currently in beta but will soon be available to their 100 million users worldwide. ANDY'S LINKS: X: https://x.com/andyyen Proton Wallet: https://proton.me/wallet Proton: https://proton.me/ ***** THE Bitcoin Podcast Partners -- use promo code WALKER for... > bitbox.swiss/walker -- 5% off the Bitcoin-only Bitbox02 hardware wallet. > EFANI: Protect yourself from SIM swap attacks – go to https://www.efani.com/walker and it’ll automatically apply the promo code WALKER getting you $99 OFF. > Cloaked Wireless: 25% OFF eSIM or physical SIM cards and protect yourself from SIM swap attacks. ***** If you enjoy THE Bitcoin Podcast you can help support the show by doing the following: Subscribe to THE Bitcoin Podcast (and leave a review) on Fountain | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | Spotify | HIGHLIGHTER | EVERYWHERE ELSE Follow me (Walker) on Twitter Personal (@WalkerAmerica) | Twitter Podcast (@TitcoinPodcast) | Nostr Personal (walker) | Nostr Podcast (Titcoin)