This episode is a treat as I combine portions of two different conversations with Marla Taviano and Jessica Kantrowitz. With Marla I discuss her book Jaded and disengaging from toxic theologies and more. With Jessica I discuss her book Good Morning Friends and what it means to write as wounded healers. I will definitely post the full convos later in the season and on patreon :) please pick up both books and visit marlataviano.com and jessicakantrowitz.com for more.