Dr Alex Green (University of York) joins us to talk about natural law and international law, and statehood. Publications mentioned in the episode: Grotius, Hugo. De Jure Belli ac Pacis, 1652. Dworkin, Ronald. ''Natural' Law Revisited'. Florida Law Review 34 (1982) 165-188. Lauterpacht, Hersch. 'The Grotian Tradition in International Law' BYIL 23 (I) (1946) 1-53. Green, Alex. 'The Precarious Rationality of International Law: Critiquing the International Rule of Recognition' German Law Journal 22(8) (2021) 1613-1634. Green, Alex. 'The Creation of States as a Cardinal Point: James Crawford's Contribution to International Legal Scholarship' AYBIL 40 (1) (2023) 67-88. Waldron, Jeremy. Law and Disagreement. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1999. Garnder, John. 'Legal Positivism: 5½ Myths' American Journal of Jurisprudence 46(1) (2001) 199-227. Waldron, Jeremy. 'The Concept and the Rule of Law' Georgia Law Review 43(1) (2008) 1-61. Green, Alex. Statehood as Political Community: International Law and the Emergence of New States, CUP (forthcoming). Stewart, Melissa. 'The Cascading Consequences of Sinking States' Stanford Journal of International Law (forthcoming).