On this episode, Steven and Marisa talk about each of their recent work trips, which spins into a conversation or why “brand” matters and needs to be measured better, why “short term-ism” is a problem, and how their industries have an uncommon magic of “community.” Then the hot topic: in honor of Back-to-School, the co-hosts discuss the importance in this dynamic business world of being continuous learners. (And teachers… and learners). Give a listen and learn a little too! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.