Dr. Kimberly Harms has been around the block in life. She has served as a Commissioned Officer in the United States Public Health Service, a dental school professor, a grief counselor, a death doula, a civil mediator, a clinical dentist with her late husband Jim in Farmington MN, a school board Chair, President of an international women’s organization, the first woman President of the Minnesota Dental Association, a National Spokesperson for the American Dental Association (21 years), an award-winning, best selling author and international speaker on the topics of grief, conflict and legacy planning. She has also suffered many personal losses, including the deaths by suicide of her mother and son and the death by a broken heart of her husband after their son’s death. Her most important role now is mother to her two surviving children and grandmother to 6 precious grandchildren. Book link: https://amzn.to/3XR3JCQ website: drkimberlyharms.com Authors URL: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562687683460 Kimberly's Career and Life Purpose In the meeting, Kimberly and Michael discussed Kimberly's background, including her career as a commissioned officer in the United States Public Health Service, her role as the first woman President of the Minnesota Dental Association, and her work as a national spokesperson for the American Dental Association. Kimberly also shared her transition from practicing dentistry to international speaking and writing books. The conversation then shifted to Kimberly's current focus on her life's purpose and her book, "Are you ready how to build a legacy to die for?" The conversation ended with Michael expressing his appreciation for the conversation and looking forward to further discussions. Planning for the Future Amid Loss Michael and Kimberly shared their personal experiences with loss, emphasizing the importance of planning for the future to ease the burden on loved ones. Michael discussed his mother's well-organized estate and how it provided a sense of peace during a difficult time. He encouraged others to do the same, setting up wills or trusts to ensure a smooth transition. Kimberly shared her own tragic losses, including the suicide of her mother and son, and how these experiences taught her about the impact of grief on others. She highlighted the importance of not letting grief consume one's life and the need to focus on the living. Both speakers underscored the significance of planning and communication in dealing with loss. Overcoming Grief and Resilience in Leadership Kimberly shared her personal experience of overcoming grief and finding happiness again, emphasizing the importance of fighting through difficult times. Michael agreed, highlighting the role of leaders in setting an example for resilience and the potential impact of unresolved grief on both individuals and their followers. They also discussed the potential link between mental health and physical health, with Kimberly sharing her own experience of being treated for depression after her son's death. The conversation concluded with a mutual understanding of the importance of seeking help and support during challenging times. Addressing Unprocessed Grief and Depression Kimberly shared her personal experience of losing her son and her husband, both of whom had struggled with untreated grief. She believes that the lack of support and recognition for grief can lead to serious health issues and even death. Michael agreed, adding that unprocessed grief can negatively impact a leader's performance and clarity. He also shared his own experience of being diagnosed with clinical depression and seeking help, emphasizing the importance of working through one's emotions for personal growth and well-being. Leading Through Grief in Dental Orgs Kimberly emphasized the importance of leading through grief in the workplace, particularly in dental organizations. She suggested having a morning huddle to acknowledge and support team