If you want to talk about the origins of computing and programming, the one person you must definitely talk about is Grandma Cobol, the Queen of Code, Rear Admiral Grace Hopper. And this is exactly what we do this week with the help of Celia. Photos, as always, are found on https://pod.elenag.me/ If you want to learn more about GrantXpert Consulting you can visit: https://www.grantxpert.eu/ more episodes at www.blacklemon.tv