In this episode, Lloyd and Dan discuss their business journey, candidly sharing the setbacks they've encountered and the valuable lessons they've learned along the way. They delve into various financial challenges they faced and the strategies employed to navigate through these difficulties. Lloyd shares personal experiences about the stress of running a business, providing insights into the emotional challenges involved. Dan and Lloyd emphasise the importance of not overlooking data and embracing elements that can streamline life in the long term. By incorporating these considerations into their decision-making process, they've seen a positive impact on their business. Try Adobe Express (pod sponsor).