Welcome to a new episode of the Business Lunch podcast! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the complexities of hiring for executive leadership roles, particularly when you're unfamiliar with the specific function of the role. They discuss practical strategies for identifying and recruiting top talent, leveraging both traditional search firms and AI tools to define roles and refine hiring processes. Whether you're scaling up your business or just starting, this episode offers valuable insights into making strategic hires that align with your company's growth objectives. Highlights: "If you achieve any level of scale, you're going to have to hire people that are truly exceptional at those functional roles that you're not good at."  "The very first thing is to determine what is the actual need in the organization and then document what does the person who is going to fill the need look like."  "A good search firm is going to help you significantly."   "You need to tap an outside expert if you don't know anything about the role."   Timestamps: 00:01 - Introduction to Executive Hiring Challenges 01:01 - Welcome and Recap of Recent Activities 01:17 - Post-Event Fatigue and Personal Anecdotes 02:02 - Challenges of Attending a Music Festival Post-Business Event 03:59 - Transition from Personal Recap to Business Discussions 05:11 - Detailed Discussion on Hiring for Unknown Roles 08:09 - Identifying Business Needs and Role Requirements 11:18 - The Value of Leveraging Search Firms and AI in Hiring 15:00 - Discussing Cultural Fit and Defining the Hiring Process 20:00 - Effective Interview Techniques and Utilizing AI for Questioning CONNECT  • Ask Roland a question HERE. RESOURCES: • 7 Steps to Scalable workbook  • Get my book, Zero Down, FREE To learn more about Roland Frasier 👉  https://msha.ke/rolandfrasier/ Connect with me on social: 🎵 TikTok:  / rolandfrasier    📸  Instagram:  a...