"We need more science in Cyber Security"  David Hechler, TAG Cyber Law Journal   Threat modeling should be step 0 of any security architecture but often goes completely unconsidered. This episode features Terry Ingoldsby, a veteran cyber risk professional, physicist, computer scientist and inventor of Securitree. Ingoldsby created the attack tree development platform because he felt cyber security assessments should be defendable rather than just the educated opinion of assessor. Despite being the inventor, there is no sales pitch. Terry, Tim and Doug talk risk, engineering, business cases and why there is no AI magic when it comes to identifying events that could end your organization.