Chelsea and guests, Susie Banikarim and Jessica Bennett, examine Vanessa Williams and her mother’s joint memoir “You Have No Idea: A Famous Daughter, Her No-nonsense Mother, and How They Survived Pageants, Hollywood, Love, Loss (and Each Other).” From Vanessa being forced to resign as Miss America to finding happiness in Hollywood, we delve into how the Williams women navigated fame with resilience, grace… and an ongoing revenge list. Show Notes: In Retrospect's Vanessa Williams episode Our Pamela Anderson episode In Retrospect's Pamela Anderson's episode Vanessa William's "Save the Best for Last" music video Vanessa William's "Colors of the Wind" music video  Where to find our Guest: Susie and Jessica  In Retrospect Podcast Susie’s Instagram Jessica’s Instagram Where to pre-order Chelsea’s book: Bookshop.org Find other places to pre-order *** For more book recaps & gentle tea, follow Chelsea on Instagram @chelseadevantez Become a member of the Celebrity Book Club Patreon! Glamorous Trash: Where we make treasure out of pop culture garbage. Glamorous Trash is all about going high and low at the same time— Glam and Trash. We recap and book club celebrity memoirs, deconstruct pop culture, and sometimes, we cry! If you've ever referenced Mariah Carey in therapy... then this is the podcast for you. Thank you to our sponsors: Tanteo Tequila - @tanteotequila Pattern Brands - @patternbrands Libro.fm - Click here to get 2 audiobooks for the price of 1 with your first month of membership using code TRASH. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices