In this episode of the Change It podcast, host Eloise chats with James Healy, a behavioural science expert based in Perth, WA, to debunk some of the most persistent myths in change management and organisational behaviour. Together, they take a closer look at widely accepted psychological models, such as Elizabeth Kübler-Ross's five stages of grief and the Myers-Briggs personality test, exposing their flaws and limitations in real-world applications. James shares his perspective on why understanding human behaviour through a behavioural science lens is essential for driving meaningful and sustainable change. He challenges traditional approaches, advocating for environmental adaptation over attempting to alter individual personalities, and offers practical strategies to bring this human-centric approach into organisational change initiatives. Listen in as James discusses: Why some popular psychological models are outdated and ineffective How a behavioural science lens transforms the way we approach change Why the over reliance on personality as a driver of behaviour isn't helping us and how changing environments and reducing friction could influence change effectively How to apply behavioural science in organisational settings Practical steps to rethink and improve change management practices James's insights provide a fresh and thought-provoking perspective on change management, encouraging us to question the status quo and embrace a more evidence-based approach to organisational transformation. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-healy-7ba629167/ https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-b-word/id1597234291 Follow, subscribe, and tune in for more thought leadership and change management expertise on the Change It podcast!