In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ is joined by Dr. Graham McAleer and Dr. Alexander Rosenthal-Pubul to discuss the conservative tradition, particularly its formulation between the poles of nationalism and liberalism in the 21st century. Drs. McAleer and Rosenthal-Pubul argue for an ancestral conservatism that emphasizes transcendence, family, and education, relying on the wisdom of the past and the importance of one's local community. They also discuss the importance of cultural institutions and ways to incorporate diverse intellectual traditions, such as psychoanalysis and phenomenology, into conservative thought. For a deep dive into this topic, check out the book: The Wisdom of Our Ancestors: Conservative Humanism and the Western Tradition 👉 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BTYVQ56G Check out our blog on www.candidgoatproductions.com  Who thinks that they can subdue Leviathan? Strength resides in its neck; dismay goes before it. When it rises up, the mighty are terrified. Nothing on earth is its equal. It is without fear. It looks down on all who are haughty; it is king over all who are proud.  These words inspired PJ Wehry to create Chasing Leviathan. Chasing Leviathan was born out of two ideals: that truth is worth pursuing but will never be subjugated, and the discipline of listening is one of the most important habits anyone can develop.  Every episode is a dialogue, a journey into the depths of a meaningful question explored through the lens of personal experience or professional expertise.