In this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Marcy Norton discuss the different ways Europeans and indigenous peoples in the Americas interacted with animals, and how their encounter re-shaped both groups' perceptions of non-human creatures. Dr. Norton invites us to consider the conditions that promote empathy and curiosity towards animals and to question cultural blind spots regarding which animals are deemed acceptable to eat. For a deep dive into Marcy Norton's work, check out her book: The Tame and the Wild: People and Animals after 1492 👉 https://www.amazon.com/dp/0674737520 Check out our blog on www.candidgoatproductions.com Who thinks that they can subdue Leviathan? Strength resides in its neck; dismay goes before it. When it rises up, the mighty are terrified. Nothing on earth is its equal. It is without fear. It looks down on all who are haughty; it is king over all who are proud.  These words inspired PJ Wehry to create Chasing Leviathan. Chasing Leviathan was born out of two ideals: that truth is worth pursuing but will never be subjugated, and the discipline of listening is one of the most important habits anyone can develop.  Every episode is a dialogue, a journey into the depths of a meaningful question explored through the lens of personal experience or professional expertise.