On this episode of Chasing Leviathan, PJ and Dr. Mark Roche discuss the practical, intrinsic, and moral value of a liberal arts education, as well as the role of educators in shaping the learning experience. The conversation delves into the Enlightenment and counter-Enlightenment, as well as the impact of education on individual growth and societal discourse.  For a deep dive into Mark Roche's work, check out his book: Why Choose the Liberal Arts? 👉 https://www.amazon.com/dp/026804032X Check out our blog on www.candidgoatproductions.com Who thinks that they can subdue Leviathan? Strength resides in its neck; dismay goes before it. When it rises up, the mighty are terrified. Nothing on earth is its equal. It is without fear. It looks down on all who are haughty; it is king over all who are proud.  These words inspired PJ Wehry to create Chasing Leviathan. Chasing Leviathan was born out of two ideals: that truth is worth pursuing but will never be subjugated, and the discipline of listening is one of the most important habits anyone can develop.  Every episode is a dialogue, a journey into the depths of a meaningful question explored through the lens of personal experience or professional expertise.