In the second half of the discussion about secure developer training programs, G Mark Hardy and Scott Russo delve deeper into how to engineer an effective cybersecurity course. They discuss the importance and impact of automation and shifting left, the customization needed for different programming languages and practices, and the role of gamification in engagement and learning. The conversation also touches upon anticipating secular trends, compliance with privacy and data protection regulations, different leaning styles and preferences, and effective strategies to enhance courses based on participant feedback. Scott highlights the lasting impacts and future implications of secure developer training, especially with the advent of generative AI in code generation. ISACA Event (10 Jan 2024) With G Mark Hardy - https://www.cisotradecraft.com/isaca Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zr09gVpJuZMUMmF9Y-Kc0DOy-1gH0cx- Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:08 Importance of Ongoing Support and Mentorship 01:46 The Role of Community in Training 03:03 Hands-on Exercises and Practical Experience 06:01 Success Stories and Testimonials 08:29 Incorporating Security Trends into Training 11:08 Balancing Security with Developer Productivity 18:17 Teaching Secure Coding Practices in Different Languages 20:27 Engaging and Motivating Participants 22:51 Promoting the Program: Engaging and Fun 23:37 Accommodating Different Learning Styles 24:16 Catering to Self-Paced Learners 26:19 Addressing Proficiency Levels and Remediation 28:55 Compliance with Privacy and Data Protection Regulations 30:48 Breaking Down Complex Security Concepts 32:05 Creating a Culture of Security Awareness 33:25 Partnerships and Collaborations in Secure Development 35:10 Feedback and Improvement of the Program 36:12 Cost Considerations for Secure Developer Training 39:20 Tracking Participants' Progress and Completion Rates 41:23 Trends in Secure Developer Training 43:42 Final Thoughts on Secure Developer Training