Castle Pines city manager Michael Penny isn't your ordinary ICMA member. He currently serves as the chairman of the ICMA's Credentialing Advisory Board (CAB) and has been a member of the organization since 1995. So, why did he join the American Association of Municipal Executives as a founding member and how does he see both organizations co-existing? Penny has also been on both sides of the ICMA executive board election process. He has run for a seat and been denied the nomination and he has been on the panel that interviewed candidates. He pushes back on my claims that the process is rigged by insiders and offers up his unique perspective. We also talk about the James Freed defamation lawsuit and the role the membership must play in holding the organization accountable. The Colorado manager isn't afraid to disagree with my takes and I think you are going to appreciate the different perspectives and arguments both of us bring to the table throughout this series. We discuss these issues and many more in the first installment of this three-part series you are not going to want to miss.  In future installments we are going to dissect the ICMA credential and its purpose, what it truly measures or signifies, and whether it has been weaponized against city managers who do not possess it. SHOW NOTES: Michael Penny's LinkedIn profile Information about the ICMA Credentialing Advisory Board (CAB). If you want to join the American Association of Municipal Executives and becoming a founding member, register today at: https://community.aame.org/. Deadline to become a founding member has been extended to July 25th. SUBMIT JOB POSTING: Do you have an executive or senior level vacancy in your organization? Use this form/link to submit your job listing in my weekly newsletter for just $100: https://forms.gle/ceMzWqeLwiRFRAGj9 SUPPORT THE PODCAST: Subscribe to my FREE weekly report of city and county manager resignations, terminations, and retirements (RTRs) at this link: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/ If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms. Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today! Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.