The Climate Justice (CJ) Deal is a set of policies which translate the principles and systemic alternatives described in the Climate Justice Charter into policy form. In this podcast, we interview academics, researchers and activists on ideas and articles that have influenced the creation of the CJ Deal for South Africa. Our guest for this episode is Australian economist Steve Keen. Steve is an Honorary Professor at the University College London  & a Distinguished Research Fellow at the Institute for Strategy, Resilience and Security (ISRS) Today we will be talking about his 2020 article “The Appallingly Bad Neoclassical Economics of Climate Change”, to understand the ways in which neoclassical economics has warped our understanding of the climate crisis from an economic perspective His latest book is called The New Economics: A Manifesto Articles mentioned in the interview: Steve Keen - The Appallingly Bad Neoclassical Economics of Climate Change Tom Murphy - Time to Move Beyond Average Thinking Tom Murphy - Exponential Economist Meets Finite Physicist Planetary Limits Academic Network (PLAN)