Haleon, a world-leading consumer health company, are dealing with large enterprise legacy, as they were formed via a demerger from GSK. While product engineering and the transition to product-centric organizations are often associated solely with born-in-the-cloud companies, the reality is usually much broader, and Haleon are on that journey. This week Dave, Rob and Sjoukje talk to Steve Westgarth, Global Head of Engineering & Architecture at Haleon, about product engineering best practices, building high performing teams, aligning product teams with the business, getting the engineers as close to the business as possible and whether Agile is dead or not. TLDR:02:30 Cookie confusion05:40 Cloud conversation with Steve Westgarth 29:00 Five key characteristics of high performing teams  35:00 A surprise birthday party! GuestSteve Westgarth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevewestgarth/ HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/