For our 100th recording (incl studio and live) we talk about why governance is so important in the digital age, fending off both attack as well as ensuring tech innovation is safe. This week Dave, Rob and Sjoukje talk to Bart Groothuis, Member of the European Parliament about the role the EU play in cybersecurity, making cyber risk visible to the C-suite, cyber resilience and the new race to ensure we have safe AI.  We also discuss the spread of mis-information from some countries and the importance of being aware, as it has a major impact on our world.  TLDR:01:40: Is Rob confused about counting to a 100?03:50: Cloud conversation with Bart Groothuis 33:40: Security predictions include the rise in AI generated threats 39:00: Bart's daughter birthday! GuestBart Groothuis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/groothuisbart/ HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/