The rising shortage of IT professionals is a critical issue, driven by rapid technological advancements and a growing demand for specialized skills, leaving businesses struggling to fill crucial roles at a time that they are still struggling to implement and/or mature new devops concepts. This week, Dave and Rob talk to Cory O'Daniel, CEO and Co-Founder at Massdriver about using software to bridge the cloud infrastructure talent gap, the role of platform engineering in this ongoing challenge, a state of the nation on maturity on the ground in platform engineering devops teams and the criticality of getting your ops teams head above water. TLDR02:00 Rob is confused about social media!07:11 Cloud conversation with Cory O'Daniel54:00 The five core elements around platform engineering 01:03:00 Hot tubbing! GuestCory O'Daniel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coryodaniel/ HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-c