Modernizing legacy systems involves updating them to current technological standards, enhancing efficiency, scalability, integration capabilities, and mitigating maintenance costs and risks—a significant challenge in today's IT landscape.  This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Jacqueline Hanson, Director of Core Digital Services at Department for Work and Pensions (DWP)  about the challenges and successes of legacy modernization without any disruption. TLDR:01:30 Rob is confused about the human firmware update and Life 3.0 05:10 Cloud conversation with Jacqueline Hanson38:00 What are the four legacy modernization trends? 46:00 Going out for great dinner GuestJacqueline Hanson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqueline-hanson-a70703/ HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/