In this conversation I speak with Cross Country magazine co-owner and long time editor Hugh Miller about his extensive experience in paragliding and his recent foray into sailplane flying. We discuss the differences between the two sports, the training and costs involved in becoming a sailplane pilot, and the unique experiences that come with cross-country flying. Hugh shares insights on the community and culture within gliding, the innovations in the industry, and reflects on the importance of aerodynamics and the thrill of flying. The conversation highlights the excitement and challenges of both paragliding and gliding, as well as the camaraderie among pilots.Takeaways* Hugh has been obsessed with paragliding for 32 years. * Sailplane training is more involved than paragliding. * The cost of training to fly a sailplane can be significant. * Gliding offers a different experience compared to paragliding. * Cross-country flying in gliders can be exhilarating. * Learning to glide involves understanding complex aerodynamics. * Community in gliding is supportive but more serious than in paragliding. * Innovations in gliding equipment are making the sport safer. * The culture in gliding is influenced by a more disciplined background. * Hugh enjoys the thrill of gliding but appreciates the freedom of paragliding.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Sailplane Adventures03:14 Hugh’s Journey in Paragliding and Gliding05:57 The Cost and Training of Sailplane Flying09:04 Differences Between Paragliding and Gliding12:03 Cross Country Flying Experiences15:04 Learning Curve and Insights from Gliding18:03 The Role of Instruments and Visual Cues in Gliding21:06 Community and Culture in Gliding23:48 The Future of Sailplanes and Innovations26:50 Reflections on the Gliding Experience30:03 Closing Thoughts and Future Aspirations