In this episode, JP and Nate continue their conversation with Brad Stulberg, author of best seller "The Master of Change." They explore the importance of developing a fluid sense of self and challenge the traditional notions of personality and style in leadership. We share our perspectives on how this discussion has shifted their own views and invite listeners to rethink their own understanding of identity. Learn more about Brad Stulberg and his book Master of Change https://www.bradstulberg.com/  Learn More about TOC and how we can help you become a better leader https://www.tocculture.com/tocculture Get the Podcast Notes and Subscribe to our weekly newsletter!  https://www.tocculture.com/newsletter  Learn More about co-host Besty Butterick! https://betsybutterick.com/ TOC Coaching & Culture Certification Course- https://www.tocculture.com/coaching-and-culture-certification