Ros speaks to money saving expert Martin Lewis. We all communicate multiple times a day but could we be getting better results? From a simple text or phone call, to a job interview or big presentation, the way we express ourselves and get our point across can really matter. Ros Atkins and his fascinating guests reveal the best ways to communicate and how simple changes in the way we make our point can be really effective. In this episode, Ros and Martin discuss why people digest information selfishly and how to communicate important information that could easily come across as boring. Series Producer: Hannah Newton Producer: Olivia Cope Executive Producer: Zoë Edwards Mix Engineer: Jonathan Last Original Music Composed by: Tom Wrankmore / Eliphino Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts A Listen production for BBC Radio 4