Cassidy Hall is an author, award-winning filmmaker, podcaster, ordained minister in the United Church of Christ, and leading voice in contemplative spirituality. She is the cohost of the Encountering Silence podcast and the host of Contemplating Now and Queering Contemplation podcasts. Her latest book is Queering Contemplation, Finding Queerness in the Roots and Future of Contemplative Spirituality. Cassidy is widely published and currently resides in Indianapolis, where she is studying for her DMin degree. In our conversation Cassidy and I talk about what drew her into contemplative spirituality and what expanded its horizons, falling head over heels with a tree, and the gift of queering contemplation, and much more. Visit Cassidy Hall at cassidyhall.com | IG: @casshall Visit Contemplify.com for shownoets.