If you don't know anything about Ptor Spricenieks, do a quick search, see what this mountain mystic has accomplished and come back to this episode to appreciate his mellow, but convicted thoughts on everything from trail building to the creation of Human Beings. This episode took a while to come about since Ptor is off-grid in the sense of having no social media presence and his absolute reticence to spray about his accomplishments. Everything in this episode is exactly what I envisioned when I started this podcast . It is Contrarian in the truest sense of the word. Here are links to relevant things we talked about: "Dream Line" 40 Tribes George Gurdjieff (Wikipedia...sorry) Aleister Crowley Climbs