Paul V. Johnson grew up in a large family and learned how to work hard on a farm in northern Utah. His wife, Jill, grew up in a small southern Utah town. This episode of Conversations features an informal yet inspiring interview with the Johnsons, who tell how they met, the trials of a serious illness, and how Elder Johnson's interest in teaching led him into unexpected paths. Elder Johnson currently serves as the Commissioner of the Church Educational System. This interview is filled with excellent advice on gaining an education, raising families, facing trials, and more, all while helping us get better acquainted with this outstanding couple.