During the pandemic of these past two years, in July 2021 Coach Pedro had the opportunity to talk to Coach Arno from Austria and exchange the experiences that swimmers in general were experiencing due to these drastic changes we all had to go through and for many to try open water swimming for their first time in life. Interesting exchange of ideas and experiences.  Coach Arno grew up in St. Johann in Tirol / He has competed as also has his team participating in competitions in Austria Swim meets in France, Germany, Italy, Hungary. He has also participatie in the European Triathlon Championships in Kitzbühel / Austria. Also in Lake Schwarzsee in Kitzbühel / Austria. Hintersteinersee/Tirol/ Austria. He let us know the differences of open waters in lakes in Europe. His interest lately has been to participate in the new sport growing in Europe of Swim/ Run competitions, where the athlete swim, run and swim on different terrains and different waters, can be lakes, oceans and rough terrain or asphalt.  Hope you enjoy this conversation.