“We cooperate to accomplish what we cannot do alone,” writes Richard Sennett, sociologist, author and professor at MIT, Columbia University and the LSE. This statement describes equally well the approach of the Argentinian artist Irene Kopelman, who is currently the subject of an exhibition at MAMAC (Nice), whose artistic practice is underpinned by a long-term engagement with scientists and their subjects, ranging from forests to bacteria. More generally, cooperation, a subject in which Richard Sennett is a specialist, has long played a crucial role in the survival of our species. However, the consequences of the Anthropocene on our planetary resources are now forcing us all to cooperate in unprecedented ways, not only among ourselves, across disciplines and borders, but also with the other species around us. This conversation looks at cooperation as a fundamental tool in the face of our changing climate, through the prism of the relationship between Art and Science. Irene Kopelman lives and works between Amsterdam and her birthplace, Argentina. Fascinated by the cabinets of curiosity and the representation of landscapes by naturalists in the 18th and 19th centuries, she questions this period of exploration and construction of knowledge on natural phenomena. She has carried out numerous research residencies in collaboration with natural history museums, geological collections or nature parks. Her research is embodied in drawings, paintings, texts, editions and installations that evoke fragile ecosystems. She is represented by Jocelyn Wolff gallery. Richard Sennett currently serves as Chair of the UN Habitat Urban Initiatives Group.  He is Senior Fellow at the Center on Capitalism and Society at Columbia University and Visiting Professor of Urban Studies at MIT. Previously, he founded the New York Institute for the Humanities, taught at New York University and at the London School of Economics, and served as President of the American Council on Work. Over the course of the last five decades, he has written about social life in cities, changes in labour, and social theory. His books include The Hidden Injuries of Class, The Fall of Public Man, The Corrosion of Character, The Culture of the New Capitalism, The Craftsman, and Building and Dwelling.  In partnership with l'Ecole des Arts Décoratifs - Paris. Co-moderated by Anna Bernagozzi, professor of design history and theory at the Ecole des Arts Décoratifs - Paris, curator and author of “Towards sharing common futures” (Corraini Edizioni, 2021), and Stefano Vendramin, curator and coordinator of the programme ‘Creators facing the Climate Emergency’. 👉 Subscribe to the newsletter to hear about new episodes: https://www.fondationthalie.org/en/newsletter Instagram & Facebook: @fondationthalie #CreatorsClimateEmergency 🔗 Images & references: https://t.ly/mHoSm 📷 Irene Kopelman, Nematostella  in Motion, S5 13 april, enamels on glass, 21 x 31.5 x 19 cm, 2021 🎙 Production: Fondation Thalie. Programme coordinator: Stefano Vendramin. Music: Joseph Schiano di Lombo. Editing: Fabrizio d’Elia