Brazilian artist Ernesto Neto’s installations immerse the viewer in colours, fragrances and sounds, redefining the boundaries between the artwork and the audience and simultaneously serving as models for redefining social environments. The unconventional choice of materials, the simultaneity of internal and external structures, the contrast between the organic and the mechanical, and the qualities of sensuality and tactility, are all deeply inherent to the artist’s practice. Neto was featured in the 57th Venice Biennial ‘Viva Arte Viva’ (2017). He is represented by Tanya Bonakdar Gallery, Galerie Max Hetzler, galería Elba Benitez, Fortes D’Aloia & Gabriel and Goodman Gallery. Michael Marder is a Canadian philosopher and research professor in the Department of Philosophy at the University of the Basque Country (UPV-EHU) in Spain. His writings span the fields of ecological theory, phenomenology, and political thought. He is the author of numerous scientific articles and monographs, including Plant-Thinking (2013); The Philosopher’s Plant (2014); Dust (2016), Green Mass (2021) and Philosophy for Passengers (2022). The conversation is co-moderated by Claudia Paetzold and Stefano Vendramin. Claudia Paetzold is a London and Paris based advisor and curator. Her curatorial practice focuses on evolutionary proposals integrating art, ancestral knowledge, applied sustainability and new technologies, culminating in new ways of creating and experiencing art. Stefano Vendramin is coordinator of the Fondation Thalie programme Creators facing the Climate Emergency, as well as an independent curator specialised in art related to the environment. 👉 Subscribe to the newsletter to hear about new episodes: https://www.fondationthalie.org/en/newsletter Instagram & Facebook : @fondationthalie #CreatorsClimateEmergency 🔗 Images & references: https://t.ly/_NFr 📷 Installation view: Ernesto Neto - Ultimatum, Galerie Max Hetzler, 2022 © Nicolas Brasseur 🎙 Production: Fondation Thalie. Programme coordinator: Stefano Vendramin. Music: Joseph Schiano di Lombo. Editing: Fabrizio d’Elia