In 2012, Cari Farver was a 37-year-old single mother living in Iowa. She met Dave Kroupa on a dating website, and the two hit it off. But very soon into the relationship, Dave began receiving hateful messages from Cari. Then, the messages turned into stalking. Join Mike and Morf as they discuss Cari Farver. It wasn't just Dave Kroupa who was receiving threatening messages from Cari. Liz Golyar, whom Dave had dated before Cari, also began receiving them. This went on for years. There was one big problem, though, because although Cari was thought to be sending messages to people, no one had seen her in person over the years. It took multiple agencies to put the pieces of the puzzle together, and what they found out astounded everyone. You can help support the show at patreon.com/criminology An Emash Digital production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices