My friend Alisa joins for a conversation that touches on too many interesting topics to list! She tells of her journey from Baptist to Catholic, the messy aspects of cultural church life in contrast to Jesus' original teachings, the ways liturgy can bring more freedom rather than less, and much more. Bear with our glitchy Zoom call audio issues at the beginning, it’s a great conversation! Alisa is my oldest friend, a writer, wife and mother, a deeply thoughtful and intelligent woman. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/crooked-little-girl/message