The soul's journey is one of transformation. Transformation involves turmoil. Transformation is a natural process of undoing, where the self we have come to identify with, the self we constructed to keep us safe, comes apart. Through this process we are dragged into the deep water of our emotions, where we can be changed in the most meaningful and important ways. If we can trust the waves of feelings and allow them to take us on a ride, we often find we are quite gracefully carried back to shore. Daphne Kingma joins Barnet and Freeman for a delicious conversation about the throws of turmoil that transform us. For more information about Daphne's amazing work, please visit www.daphnekingma.com.