In ‘Destination Anywhere’, Melanie Oliveiro chats with Walter de Oude, founder of Chocolate Finance. De Oude tells us about his adventures in South Africa exploring the wineries, hiking trails and mountain biking routes during the summer; his 360 km bike ride around Laos’ Luang Prabang; and in Italy’s Tuscany, how he took frequent 40 km rides biking through gravel parks as well as exploring hilltop villages and restaurants. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.