I’m talking with Debbie Millman — designer, author, educator, curator, brand strategist, and host of the long-running, multi-award-winning podcast Design Matters — about her new book, Why Design Matters: Conversations with the World’s Most Creative People. It’s a conversation about creativity with one of the most creative people in the business, where she answers a lot of direct questions like, What is good design? What are the politics of curation and how is it different from discernment? What gets in the way of a creative life? We also, of course, talk about shame and worthiness, and some of her answers are just incredible. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices