ISIS used to dominate international headlines, with news of attacks on Western soil, and gruesome atrocities in Syria and Iraq. Since the collapse of its so-called caliphate, ISIS has become a shadow of its former self - or has it? In this episode of NATO DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel is joined by Pieter Van Ostaeyen, a historian, Arabist, and expert on ISIS, to discuss the current state of the group. From Europe to the Sahel, ISIS and its supporters remain active, physically and virtually, and may well present a threat to global security once more in the near future. Full transcripts for each episode can be found at: https://deepportal.hq.nato.int/eacademy/deep-dive-podcasts/ Follow DEEP Dive to stay up to date with each new upload.