As we conclude our Metahuman miniseries, we hear from Dr. Don Hoffman, writer and professor of Cognitive Sciences at the University of California, Irvine, as he shares his latest book The Case of Against Reality: Why Evolution Hid the Truth from Our Eyes and asks us to challenge what we call reality. This conversation took place at The Rubin Museum of Art and was recorded in front of a live audience.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices