In this episode of the Defence Connect Podcast, host Steve Kuper is joined by Dr Ross Babbage, CEO of Strategic Forum and senior non-resident fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments.   The pair begin their conversation discussing the origins of Dr Babbage’s report for the Lowy Institute, Deterrence and alliance power: Why the AUKUS submarines matter and how they can be delivered.    The pair also discuss:  Some of the concerns in Australia, the United States, and the United Kingdom around delivering the future SSN-AUKUS fleet.  The risk/reward opportunity available to Australia as part of the generational nation-building program AUKUS represents.  Setting the record straight on some of the misconceptions and focal points that dominate the national conversation about AUKUS.  Enjoy the podcast,  The Defence Connect team