Tonight we are talking about hidden things: secret societies, international conspiracies. Joining us by telephone from New York is the author Colin Dickey, who has written interesting books about a lot of our favorite topics: ghosts, flyings saucers, and especially the many reasons so many of us are drawn to the supernatural, the occult, the paranormal. His latest, in stores next week from Viking Books, is called Under the Eye of Power: How Fear of Secret Societies Shapes American Democracy. Desert Oracle Radio is hosted by Ken Layne, with new soundscapes by RedBlueBlackSilver. Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/desertoracle See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.