In this first episode of Detailer, I talk to William Murray, co-founder of MurrayTwohig, about his firm's 'non-parasitic' approach to placemaking, why good things happen sometimes despite architects rather than because of them, about the prospect for real change in the UK under Labour, Thomas Heatherwick's Humanise campaign, ambition, historic churches, kissing-gates, and barns. Oh, and a total lack of squirrels as we walk through the Sussex countryside to one of his favourite places. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.