“When we are young we play to win. When we’re older we play not to lose. ” This week starts with tales of crashed cars and car-crash fashion choices before we are joined by a pair who lived life in the fast lane. Our guests are a husband and wife team who have successfully transitioned their once corporate careers to now work with people in their mid-life to support their health and wellbeing following their own passion for this area. Claire and James talk to us about their move from being well-known in nightclubs to growing disillusioned with the corporate world and seeking more from life. They discuss a fear of failure, understanding life by looking backwards and going back to minimum wage to find what they were after. There are the common themes which come up time and again in mid-life, setting personal goals and including wellbeing in corporate responsibility. James and Kenneth find out more about how physical activity can be the first step, loving certainty and the importance of routine. --- You can find us on www.domoregood.uk or follow us on Twitter and Instagram. Get in touch if you'd like to feature or star on the show. It goes without saying really but the episodes contains our opinions - essentially things we overheard in meetings, stole from presentations and read in magazines. Thanks for listening.