This is a re-upload of the first episode with more post-processing done. In this first episode, we speak to Stephen Deutsch, the Department of Energy, Environment and Climate Action's Principal Data Scientist. At the time of recording, an article I had written on the grotesque overuse of the word 'leadership' had just hit the #1 spot on Hackernews, where Stephen was named as one of the the best actual leaders I've ever worked with. Spoiler: He hired smart people and let them lead themselves. I was so impressed that we added him as the final member to my consultancy even though we have an equal profit sharing model. We've put our money where our mouths are on this guy. In this episode we talk about helping your people live their best careers, treating people like people, corporate theater, the difference between management and leadership, how Stephen is a fraud that still doesn't know half of the nonsense phrases that the organization uses, and Saint Hicks. Audio quality will hopefully become better with each passing episode as I learn what the hell I'm doing, but feedback is welcome at [email protected]. Anything good in the audio is attributable to Dennis Crenshaw, and everything bad is my fault.