In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, food safety industry veterans Matt and Francine are talking about food safety culture falling apart and when and where the next major food safety outbreak will be. Because it will happen, there’s no doubt about it. They address the troubling fact that just because you think you’re company has a good food safety culture that doesn’t mean that’s true. They also point out how important it is to explain the why behind things, to be on the floor checking that things are as they should be, and to lead by example. Tune in for this very important conversation that needs to be had about food safety culture. In this episode: 💩 [06:17] Food safety culture, the Food Safety Summit, and ruffling feathers 💩 [08:15] Dr. Darin Detwiler’s recent article “Anticipating the inevitable” 💩 [11:48] Companies’ (skewed) perceptions of their own food safety culture 💩 [15:51] The importance of stepping into where the processes and procedures are applied, walking through them, and leading by example 💩 [19:40] Even companies that are amazing at training seem to fail to teach the most important thing  💩 [21:40] The things we need to talk about, even if people don’t want to hear 💩 [24:23] Where the next major food safety crisis will come from 💩 [25:50] The importance of checking that the right things are actually getting done 💩 [28:15] Matt’s prediction for food safety culture in the next 2 decades 💩 [29:12] Good auditors, bad auditors, and the realities of being one 💩 [32:07] Someone found a present in their popsicle Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice. Resources from this episode Read Dr. Darin Detwiler’s recent article Anticipating the inevitable: Predicting the next major food safety failure. See the popsicle with a special present inside here. Noteworthy quotes from this episode “The ones that don't want to hear what you have to say are the ones that need to hear what you have to say.” – Matthew Regusci “A good food safety culture sets those policies and procedures and they follow them from the top to the team member level. And they explain the whys of why this stuff is important. They don't just say this is how we have to do it.” – Francine L Shaw We hope you enjoy this episode! Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety! We'd love to hear from you! Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!  Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed. Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!  _______ Produced by Ideablossoms