In this episode, hosts Kel & Kee unpack the important roles of the wider family, specifically for new parents. Kee opens up about her experience being estranged from her parents & having to navigate motherhood without a mother figure to look up to. Then later in the ep, we chat with S*****r from NZ, Elle Chrisp who opens up about the frustrations that come when parents live nearby, but are nowhere near as involved as you’d imagined.  MENTIONS Mum for Mum: https://www.mumformum.org.au/ Kelly’s birth story: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaMGySThyMF/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==⁠ Kee’s birth story: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cf-ggcuBTCU/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==⁠ GUEST Elle Chrisp: https://www.instagram.com/elle_herself/   HOSTS & PRODUCERS Kelly McCarren: www.instagram.com/kelly_mccarren/  Kee Reece: www.instagram.com/keereece/   AUDIO PRODUCTION Claudia Coy: https://www.instagram.com/claudia_coy/