David Heinemeier Hansson, better known as DHH, returns to the Elevate Podcast in this new episode. DHH is the co-founder of Basecamp which has been used by over 20m people globally. He’s also the founder of Hey and the creator of the transformational Ruby on Rails, an open-source web framework that was used to create Basecamp, Github, Shopify, Airbnb and more. He is also a frequent writer at Hey World, the New York Times bestselling author of four books, including Rework, and even an award-winning racecar driver.  DHH and Robert had an extensive conversation about therapy, parenting, going against the grain, the future of the tech industry and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices