with guest Brian Doerksen, Canadian song-writer, instructor, and singer. When hard things happen, a personal response—however that looks—is inevitable. When Brian heard the First Nation Band Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc announce that the remains of 215 children were found at the former residential school in Kamloops, BC, he was deeply impacted. Like many Canadians, he wrestled with what was being uncovered, the role of religious institutions in the injustices done, and what he should do next. Brian Doerksen is a Christian songwriter, recording artist, and songwriting instructor who is well-known for songs such as Refiner’s Fire and Hope of the Nations. Brian shares his heart for writing the song 215 and where it has led him in this ongoing, communal journey toward hope for reconciliation. Recommended Resources: 215 - official music video, Brian Doerksen Episode hosted by Shelaine.