In today's episode we talked about: We're doing consulting now! Details at enneagramforidiots.com We're continuing our series on the instinctual variants, featuring the self-pres 4s (aka I'm not sad and I don't want to be sad with you). Lots of descriptors for this instinctual variant: "tenacity" "defensive action" "dauntless". What resonates with you? We talk about the theory that the instincts have levels of health as well (Russ Hudson "Essence Emerging" meetups, A.H. Almaas, Creator of the Holy Ideas) Tara talked about her self-pres 4 experiences and then realized she's probably self-pres dominant Self-pres fours have a lot of endurance If you're SP4 are you in-tune with the temperature of the room? Other comforts? How do you go about getting your physical needs met? Talked about how the self-pres four is the counter type of the fours and can look like some other types Also talked about a self-pres four not wanting to be "held down" by other unhealthy or brooding/moping fours or people in general As always, email us your thoughts, feedback and if you're self-pres 4 or know a self-pres 4 we'd love to chat via email. Talk to us on the internet and thanks for listening to this episode. 3