This episode is brought to you by Operation Podcast, Caldera Lab, and Momentous. What if you could achieve your dream body using just minimal tools and a small amount of time each day? Join us as we chat with health, fitness, and nutrition expert Joey Thurman, who shares his "minimum method" for setting realistic goals and making sustainable changes to your lifestyle. Joey's journey through his multifaceted career and battles with clinical depression serves as an inspiring backdrop to his insights on fat loss, muscle maintenance, and the power of self-appreciation and honesty. Throughout the interview, Joey delves into the importance of mindfulness and the detrimental effects of digital distractions on our well-being. Joey's approach to health optimization also touches on accessible methods for addressing gastrointestinal distress and the foundational aspects of sleep, hunger, recovery, energy, digestion, and stress, all of which play a crucial role in achieving long-term health goals. We also navigate the complexities of maintaining fitness goals, even in the public eye. Joey provides thoughtful commentary on the relationship between overall health and hormonal balance while advocating for affordable and practical wellness practices. Whether discussing the pitfalls of pricey health protocols or the importance of compassion and self-care, Joey’s perspective is a refreshing reminder that less can indeed be more on the journey to a healthier, balanced life. Follow Joey @joeythurmanfit Follow Chase @chase_chewning ----- In this episode we discuss... (00:00) The Minimum Method (05:04) Navigating Success and Mental Wellness (13:51) Striving for Wellness Through Simplified Steps (22:59) Prioritizing Time for Self-Care (30:22) Finding Balance in Your Personal Health Journey (34:10) Navigating Wellness Before Optimizing Health (42:59) Health vs Optimization vs Wellness (47:33) The "Protocol" Debate (52:43) Belonging and Community in Wellness (01:00:27) Maintaining Your Dream Body as Life Changes (01:11:30) Simplicity in Achieving Wellness and Fitness ----- Episode resources: Level up your podcast with Operation Podcast, use code EVERFORWARD for 15% off your next studio booking Save 20% on any men's skincare item with code EVERFORWARD at https://www.CalderaLab.com  Save big on the Male Hormone Bundle Kit from Momentous  Watch and subscribe on YouTube Learn more at JoeyThurman.com Get his audiobook for FREE with your Audible 30-day trial at https://www.AudibleTrial.com/everforward