In this episode we discuss Sally Rooney's debut novel, with frequent tootling interruptions from a nearby Carolina wren. Next up: THE TOPEKA SCHOOL by Ben Lerner, whose first novel, LEAVING THE ATOCHA STATION, we discussed way back in episode 23. And please consider donating to organizations at work to end police brutality and white supremacy in its myriad forms. A list can be found here: https://nymag.com/strategist/article/where-to-donate-for-black-lives-matter.html